| I would say what should be done is to move on from that and move discussion and consensus-building on how the problem should be addressed. Most voters are not actually "deniers", it seems outlandish to me that so much handwringing is made over these people. Every article, time after time, it's so tiresome. Deniers are a few % of the population globally, and even in high denier country like USA it's somewhere under 15%. The deniers aren't preventing improvements from happening. The problem is corporate, political, and international corruption and collusion that inhibits radical change and shuts down even any serious discussion of alternatives. The denier is a wonderful scapegoat for them to blame though. I'm not a denier in the slightest, actually the opposite. However I disagree with the direction of some of the proposed "solutions" and I've never seen any serious discussion and analysis and alternatives put to the public to vote on. It's always framed as an us vs them issue, you're with us or against us, a disciple of the denier cult or the science cult. The problem is they say you must trust the science, and from there they draw the line a little further for you and tell you you have to trust their global economic plans. Sure I trust the science and the scientists completely. I don't trust politicians or their lobbyists to actually turn that science into fair, equitable, effective policy. I think they quite like providing two bad options because that pleases their owners and allows them to put on a big show of fighting those evil leftists/rightists while not actually doing very much. For example, I don't agree that a country with high emissions intensity of production should be given concessions that give them any relative advantage in production over countries that have far better emissions intensity of production. That will create incentives to move production to higher emissions countries, so I think it should actually be the opposite. I also don't agree per-capita quotas or concessions are a good idea because that creates perverse incentives to increase population growths and restrict living standards. Stating opinions like this has resulted in some pretty astounding vitriol and hatred spewed at me (not on this forum but other parts of the internet and the real world) from people who have been extremely vocal in proclaiming how much they want solutions, and how much they value diversity of opinion, open discussion, etc. And never has it ever resulted in open minded discussion or genuine attempts to understand other points of view. |