[reilly3000]

I’m not going to say that Elastic has no real competition, but as a whole package it stands alone. It’s speed and versatility definitely differentiate it from other similar systems. The fact that it can be a log aggregator, search engine, personalization system, seim, analytics tool, and forecasting tool make it a lot more useful than typical full-text search systems, often which can’t process aggregations or run in a single instance. I think they know their position in the market is strong and that helps them feel empowered to make risky moves with their licensing. I’d rather use anything else, but for interactive analytics (sub second response times on millions of data points) it’s tough to beat. It’s a fussy app to self-host or run in a non-managed cloud environment. I wish them the best, but worry these kinds of moves will inspire more competition from totally other projects, let alone it’s fork(s).

[nullify88]

A lot of people like myself just want to view logs and dont care for features like SIEM. This is where the OSS and OpenDistro versions shine.

I have revisited Loki after all this new though, but I think its still missing full text search.

[chippiewill]

> but I think its still missing full text search.

That's very much by design, by not having indexing of the logging content it's much much leaner and efficient. It's aimed at a completely different use case where you already know the set of log streams you want to monitor.

[WontonDon]

As long as they keep innovating to stay number 1, they will do just fine, even against AWS fork or new competitors.