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by _RPL5_ 1774 days ago
Here is a piece of commentary from a Russian insider covering the launch of Nauka, but not the docking, in Russian [1]. There was a litany of smaller issues with the launch, probably stemming from the fact that the module has been tossed around for 25+ years.

I generally don't expect Roskosmos to make any comments regarding Nauka unless it blows up or something. Part of the reason, apparently, is that Roskosmos is being assessed for new funding (from the blog post, Google translate edited for clarity):

"""

Docking is scheduled for July 29. The future of Russian manned astronautics depends on its success. With Nauka, the Russian segment will be able to operate for another 10 years, and be more effective as a research platform.

The future of the independent Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) is also indirectly related to the success of Nauka. With Nauka, Roskosmos gets a chance to show that it has the ability to create and launch manned space stations. This, in turn, increases the likelihood of obtaining the funding for ROSS.

Probably, this is the reason that Roscosmos has been reluctant to voice any of the problems with Nauka. When half a trillion rubles is at stake, you will inevitably lose your voice.

"""

Half a trillion rubles is about $7bn American. I've been hearing about plans for this new station for a few years now. I don't really know if it's real. Involvement with the ISS, where Americans shouldered 80% of the financial burden, is really what kept the Russian space program relevant. So I don't expect us to pull out of the ISS voluntarily. If the ISS ends up being decommissioned this decade, hopefully we can piggy back with the Chinese on their new projects or something. That's assuming we have anything they want, which is a big question mark come year 2030.

[1] https://zelenyikot.livejournal.com/158629.html

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Wasn't there a plan for "dual" use, aka the next space station can be equipped with a drive and used as a long range spaceship if needs be?
This sounds like something from a sci-fi novel.

The only tangible new thing in production is the Angara heavy rocket that will replace Protons. It's an actual thing that exists and flies. There is also a new piloted ship (Eagle/Federation) in development tailored for Angara, but I don't expect to see it in serial production until late 2020s.

Beyond these two things, everything else is basically concept art.

FWIW, it actually is part of an old sci-fi novel, featuring in Arthur C. Clarke's 2010¹. China suddenly joins a race to Jupiter by firing up its "space station".

¹ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_Odyssey_Two

There were plans to launch a VASIMIR Ion drive for testing - The ISS was the only thing in space with enough electrical power to test it.

Apparently NASA lost interest around 2015.

I think I read something about assembling a manned mars ship out of re-used ISS or new ISS-like parts, but I can't recall where, or if the proposal was serious.

It’d need additional radiation shielding to operate for long periods outside Earth’s magnetosphere. The Lunar Gateway modules are a reasonable blueprint for this.

Also, even with the ISS’s power budget, the VASIMR module wouldn’t operate continuously. The plan was to charge it and then run it for short 15 minute periods. It could operate for longer if it took more power from the ISS. It seems they are considering other options for a flight demonstration.

> hopefully we can piggy back with the Chinese on their new projects or something

The US won't touch China with a ten feet pole for anything space-related (and vice versa). The best the US may see is a bit of cooperation with the EU - assuming we can solve our internal post-covid and euro-skeptic squabbles - and that's it.

He's obviously talking from a Russian point of view.
And thank god. My theory

China and Russia should form their own platform for future space explorations.

The EU should really have their own thing and collab with both West and East. The US can do whatever.

The China/Russia alliance could probably work with "other" BRICS nations not entirely known for space research.