[voidnullnil]

> You can be against this kind of thing from Apple, but as a result more CSAM will be undetected.

You cannot claim to be making "the real reasonable analysis" and write this. So much for "you're all geeks stuck on technical details". Quite the contrary: I'm sick of bogus software pretending to solve problems for me, while the quality of tech has exponential degraded over the last 20 years (often due to trying to solve some unsolvable problem in a bad way that backfires).

Now imagine you have a 16 year old girlfriend. She sends you a nude photo. Your phone calls the cops on you (it doesn't matter if the phone doesn't quite do this now, it will in the future. They will use their ML crap to detect the age of subjects in photos and explicitness of the photo). You normally wouldn't go to jail for this since 16 is legal in 99% of the civilized world, but thanks to America with their super duper "non-technical" innovations that only big boy white collars can understand, you can go to jail for having a photo of your legal girlfriend.

[skinkestek]

Mostly good...

> big boy white

but why the totally uncalled racism and sexism here?

It does nothing to strengthen your argument and it is just dumb.

[voidnullnil]

I am truly sorry for your loss in that your brain is implemented using regex.

I meant "white collar big boys", but I did not bother to edit as I'm writing.

The guy above is claiming everyone who is against apple's yet-another-bogus-TPM-style-snakeoil is a little geek who does not understand anything outside their little tunnel.

Also now that I re-read his comment:

> Edit: After digging in, HN commentary is missing the most relevant details about this particular implementation. iCloud image checking compares to known CSAM image hashes - this means effectively zero false positive rate.

False: it's a perceptual hash. Ignoring the fact that if for some reason you choose to let people host stuff in your icloud account (perhaps as a neat hack), which may be out of terms of service, but certainly not worth 20 years of jail: perceptual hashes have false positives, and can confuse images that appear harmless but were crafted to look like $badimg. But you don't have to be technical to understand that having your devices police you is bad, you just have to not be blinded by politics and boogeyman your state has sold you.