| > Are you falling into their trap knowingly or not? This is a false dichotomy and a false assumption. > There is a child molestation problem everywhere in the world, including online. Agreed. > I have seen nothing explaining it is getting bigger / worse. I have read that most of the cases are family members, in the real world. Have you listened to Sam Harris, or heard the FBI? They have a very different view. It could be that both are true: there is a child porn problem and governments are using it as an excuse. The only thing you seem to be going on is a story you once heard, that may have been true at the time, but may not be now. > So when I hear Apple and Government explain "because of the children" they want to monitor our phones more, in the context of growing assumed dictatorships, Pegasus, Snowden reveleation, do you really think that solving the child pornography issue will help refrain them, or slow them down? That would misleading sense given that you are assuming child porn is not a growing problem. Porn in general is growing hugely why wouldn’t child porn also be growing? Generally Apple has resisted overreach, but I agree that they are slowly moving in the wrong direction. Apple is not the government. > Open source hardware, > political pressure, consumer pressure, and regulation, possibly monopoly break-ups. In the US, it starts with the people. You contradict yourself here. You seem to think the government can’t be slowed and yet political pressure will work. Which is it? > But doing better with child pornography won't change anything there, I agree - it won’t eliminate the forces that want to weaken encryption etc. But a more privacy respecting solution would still help. > it juts moves the discussion to some other topic. Distraction. That is my point all along. > There is no data that shows that all of a sudden child pronography has progressed leaps and bounds. So people suddenly concerned by that are Isn’t there? The FBI claims it is growing. > most likely not truthful, Ok, we know you don’t trust the FBI. But enough people do that we can’t ignore them. Even if the problem isn’t growing as Sam Harris claims it is, trying to persuade people that the problem doesn’t need to be solved seems like a good way to undermine the causes you support. > a dn they have a very strong agenda. That's what we need to focus on, not their "look at the children" As I say, I agree there are people trying to exploit ‘look at the children’ in support of their own agenda. I just don’t think that means there isn’t a real problem with child porn. Denying that there is a problem seems equally agenda driven. |