[ncw96]

> As far as this is concerned, seems like if you don’t use iMessage or iCloud you’re safe for now.

Yes, this is correct. The Messages feature only applies to children under 18 who are in an iCloud Family, and the photo library feature only applies if you are using iCloud Photos.

[system2]

Ha ha. They have a fully functional spying software installed on the phone and the government will stop at these restrictions?

[Draken93]

Oh come on, you really think thats their big plan? Announcing the scanning SW in public and then abuse it? If they want to to illegal spying they do it right. And without a second Snowden you will not hear about it.

[withinboredom]

I’m fairly certain the age is different per region and hopefully tied to the age of consent (in this particular case).

[rootusrootus]

I don't think it has anything to do with age. It has everything to do with you adding the phone to your family under settings and declaring that it belongs to a child. You control the definition of child.

[jdavis703]

I could imagine an abusive partner enabling this to make sure their partner isn’t sexting other people. Given the pushback for AirTags I’m surprised people aren’t more concerned.

[rootusrootus]

Anyone 13 or older can remove themselves from a family sharing group. The only exception is if screen time is enabled and enforced for their device.

Frankly, if you have an abusive partner with physical control over you and a willingness to do this, the fact that Apple supports this technology is the least of your problems.

[xondono]

Except this would require consent of the abused partner when creating the account to set an age <13yo.

You can’t ser this to other accounts on you family remotely.

[endisneigh]

You’re misunderstanding what this is if this is an actual concern of yours.

[jdavis703]

I’m not sure I’m misunderstanding. This is another feature that allows someone with access to another person’s phone to enable stalkerware like features.

[josh_today]

Would artificially inflating every child’s age to 18+ eliminate the iMessage problem

[latexr]

Ending of fourth paragraph:

> This feature can be turned on or off by parents.