[grumblenum]

>It isnt about money, I am juwt ashamed to have an American passport and know my tax dollars are being spent on war and murder in the name of christ and oil profits.

You know Bush isn't president anymore, right? That hasn't been a a popular (and I would say erroneous, even when it was popular) talking point for more than a decade.

I do find it interesting that expatriation trends seem to pivot in years with presidential elections, according to that chart.

[walkhour]

> You know Bush isn't president anymore, right? That hasn't been a a popular (and I would say erroneous, even when it was popular) talking point for more than a decade.

The US performed military operations in eight different countries just during the Obama administration, some of the conflicts where not inherited, like the war in Syria and Yemen.

Those wars were payed by the US citizens regardless of whether they agreed with the war or not.

[grumblenum]

Obama invaded Syria "in the name of Christ and oil profits"? That justification was a myth, even when the Trotskyites-cum-Conservatives asserted it as truth 15 years ago.

Creating a belt of failed states in Central Asia has been a long-standing policy, if Wesley Clark is to be believed. I can only speculate what the real goals are, but "because Jesus" or "because Bush is dumb" was always fodder for the low-info crowd who watched the Daily Show.

[fourthwaveska]

> Obama invaded Syria "in the name of Christ and oil profits"? That justification was a myth, even when the Trotskyites-cum-Conservatives asserted it as truth 15 years ago.

Citation needed.

[fourthwaveska]

Yes Bush isn't president, but the failures and hatreds of the entire Bush family are still incredibly relevant today. If you don't believe that, look at the 10s of thousands of Afghans currently walking through Iran and Turkey to find refuge in Europe).

When you're the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, your decisions outlast your position.

[grumblenum]

I think the refugees are motivated much more by the financial incentives those governments provide. They usually pass through multiple safe countries to get to places like Germany. A modernized Plantation of Ulster has been the policy of every Western government since the 60s.

War and, I guess, the weather, are convenient narratives for these highly unpopular policies.

[fourthwaveska]

I’m guessing you have never volunteered at a refugee camp?

Would you like to? I ask in all seriousness. The UN has several programs which are basically refugee tourism.

Like missionary work but without forcing them to get baptized for their supper.

I did it in Turkey 6 years ago. Imagine 5 miles of tents in any direction. Most people who were there then are still there now.

[fourthwaveska]

I just realized, I never mentioned Bush, you did. See, I didn't even have to mention Bush, just his legacy, and you instantly knew what I was referencing.