[bko]

I happened to check today at what Tesla is driving for "Full Self-Driving Capability" and it's now $10,000. I was originally very interested in the feature, especially since it was available on a car that starts in the low 30s, but that price point seems way out of whack.

I'm just glad there's some competition that's not tied to the car manufacturers. I can't trust modern cars to have an 2014 iPad quality touch screen, I have no faith in their ability to deliver self-driving.

[argonaut]

If you don't trust the car manufacturers, I'm not sure why you would trust a bolt-on system from a startup that may or may not have tested the system extensively with your specific car model. If anything, the car manufacturers at least have some legal liability.

[bko]

They're much more transparent than any of the other car companies. There's also reasonable safety controls that I can understand. They don't apply torque or braking to a level such that I wouldn't be able to intervene. Essentially they can't run you off the road if you're paying attention. I have no clue what the other lane-assist guys do. They're a nameless faceless corporation. No identity, github, forum for issues, contact, nothing but marketing material.

https://mleverything.substack.com/p/commaai-flying-cars-and-...

[argonaut]

Existing non-Tesla driver assist systems also don't run you off the road.

[fiddlerwoaroof]

They just released a $100/mo. subscription for the FSD features, but I think the more advanced FSD that supposedly can handle city streets has an additional feature flag that’s gated on your safety record or something.

[jayd16]

$199/mo actually, unless you know of a deal.

[fiddlerwoaroof]

I just confirmed in the app that it’s $99/mo for my 2020 3 LR AWD with the Enhanced Autopilot upgrade.

https://www.tesla.com/support/full-self-driving-subscription...

[jayd16]

Ah, you need to have already bought EAP.