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by bern4444 1784 days ago
> Getting a vaccine to cross an international border is not the same as getting a vaccine to walk to a bar on your own street in your own country.

In NY it's trivial to get this vaccine. Getting it is certainly easier than getting any other government id (state id, permit, driver's license etc). Certainly ID is needed to purchase alcohol, drive a car, etc. Maybe not at a bar, but often for purchasing alcohol from a liquor or wine store.

> Besides, people who have not had the Covid vaccine are not directly preventing anyone from enjoying life.

Of course they are. They're taking up space in hospitals, endangering public health, and causing unnecessary harm by spreading covid and increasing the risk of a new variant.
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analyte123 1784 days ago
As long as one is viewing humans solely as harmful disease vectors, obese people also take up substantial space in hospitals and cause further obesity through social contagion. However, we don't mandate that restaurants prohibit serving sugary drinks to those with BMI over 30. People with various STIs also do everything in your list, but that is addressed through awareness of safer practices, in some cases voluntary vaccination and PrEP, and research into better treatments, not through banning extramarital sex or shutting down locations where people meet for sexual activity. People who participate in injury-prone sports and activities also take up disproportionate hospital space, but the US passed the ACA in part to require medical coverage for people regardless of their lifestyle.

The reasoning for restricting behavior based on people's Covid risk (including vaccination status) is exactly the same as in the scenarios above.

People vaccinated against Covid can choose today to live a normal life, confident in the vaccine's protection against their serious illness or hospitalization, without scapegoating those not vaccinated for the entirely predictable seasonal and variant spread of Covid, or forcing struggling small businesses to hire bouncers to check the medical papers of every customer.

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