[Robelius]

Just look at the suicides if you aren't buying it....I won't pretend to know what those officers experienced. But when officers are saying they view the actions of their leaders as disgraceful, and talk about a feeling of abandonment, then just maybe we should believe what they say? Or continue to ignore their complaints.

[BackBlast]

Leader abandonment is hardly unique to that job. The conclusion of many Portland and similar officers was to retire, change job types, or change job locations - not suicide.

When facts don't add up I tend to conclude that there either are missing facts or some of the purported facts aren't actually facts.

[CRConrad]

"Do the research!", or how does it go?