[asdff]

There is so much excel voodoo involved to do things with that software. I still believe that the learning curve of excel is no harder than the learning curve of doing the same exact thing in R or python, plus you'd end up having the data and the formulas in different places which brings loads of benefits (for instance, git). People are just familiar with excel because thats what they used to make a chart in science class in 7th grade since 1995, but they really could have learned to make the same chart in 7th grade with a language like python too, if it were only taught python instead of excel in school. And then we'd have a generation of workers fluent in a language like python rather than fluent in the very limited use case by comparison Excelese, and we would no doubt reap the benefits in our GDP. Its like we are limiting the knowledge of fire among our tribe when we don't really have to, it's perfectly learnable.

[watertom]

Return on investment, essentially a zero barrier to entry, and immediate gratification, and it's wildly flexible.

It takes about 10 minutes to learn the basics a spreadsheet, and what you get back is immense.

You couldn't get python up in running in 10 minutes, then you need to learn the language, the syntax, and how to structure a program, frankly I'm tired just starting to type out what needs to happen even before you can do *ANYTHING*.

Some people can get YEARS of productivity from those first minutes with a spreadsheet. The return on that initial 10 minute investment justifies spending more time to learn the more esoterica aspects of a spreadsheet, but even then, most people don't want to be bothered with learning how to "program".

Why do so many people start playing guitar/piano/drums/etc, but so few finish? Because it requires a significant up front investment, no immediate gratification, and a long, slow return on that significant up front investment, learning music is somewhat flexible, but you need to be highly skilled in order to exploit the flexibility.

[antipaul]

I dunno, any programming seems a different beast than a spreadsheet tool.

For python, just think of installing it or setting up virtual environments.

Like the original article says, “spreadsheets are the original low code”

[asdff]

Python is preinstalled on macs at least, that's a decent chunk of personal computers. You have to pay for excel. And you don't need to bother with virtual environments to fiddle with a flat file.

[bnj]

I think an important part of the battle for attention is that excel is visible as a GUI that inexperienced users can open from an icon and see and manipulate. A simple GUI utility with Python input in one pane and data input in the other might put them on more equal footing.