[skissane]

The rhetoric of American exceptionalism annoys me a lot.

But occasionally I think it has some justification. And I think SpaceX is one of those rare cases. I just can't see a firm like SpaceX existing in any other country. The US offers a unique combination of easy access to capital, relatively low regulation, and high government funding for private space ventures, which I doubt you will find anywhere else.

[throw0101a]

> The US offers a unique combination of easy access to capital, relatively low regulation, and high government funding […]

Yes. And none of those things are historically unique.

They just happen to be true now in the US, partly because the US is the large economy in the world. But those things were true during different times in history in other countries.

Do you think it was a coïncidence that the Industrial Revolution kicked off in the UK, when they just happened to be one of the larger economies in the world at that time? Where did all the early research in electricity happened, in the US? Do you think Volta, Ampère, or Hertz are American names? Or the concept of interchange able parts (see the book The Perfectionists by Winchester)? Where was the internal combustion engine invented? The American space program was kickstarted by a bunch Germans.

Of course culture helps as well. Britain actually lost its initial lead in the chemical industry, even though things started there:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauveine

Fiddling with industrial chemicals was poo-pooed by the British intelligentsia, so the industry in Germany ended up surpassing Britain (e.g., BASF). See the book Mauve by Simon Garfield for a pretty good history on this:

* https://www.simongarfield.com/books/mauve/

It may be that the US has the go-go culture now that other countries used to have.

What is happening now in the US is a great thing, but to call "unique" is an insult to countless historical figures IMHO.

[skissane]

> And none of those things are historically unique.

I never said it was historically unique, if by that you mean without any historical parallel. Of course if you look at other industries and other historical periods, you will see other cases where a certain industry in a certain country has pulled ahead. And US leadership in space (or any other industry) is not guaranteed to last forever, and is in fact unlikely to last forever. But the US does provide a supportive environment for private space entrepreneurship which is unique in the world today.

The US has both some unique strengths and unique flaws. It is a world leader in both the space industry and in mass incarceration. The first is something it can be proud of, and the second is something of which it should be ashamed. Neither lead is guaranteed to be permanent, so in neither way is it unique in an absolute historical sense, but in both ways it is unique relative to the world of today.

> Do you think Volta, Ampère, or Hertz are American names?

I feel like you are arguing, not against anything I actually said, but things you are imagining I said. I'm not an American. I'm perfectly capable of being critical of the US (there is much I could say on that topic) but I also think it has its strengths and SpaceX is evidence of some of them.

[mrDmrTmrJ]

Historically, all three of the examples you site (Industrial revolution in the UK, Chemical manufacturing in Germany, and current commercial space industry in the US) are exceedingly rare*. The vast majority of both countries and time periods show a total absence of new technological development. Roman agricultural productivity was under 0.1% for the entirety of the empire. [1]

You're siting 0.1% historical outcomes when you look across all of the active civilizations across all of human history.

The conditions in the US currently, and Pax Americana more generally, are extremely rare in the history.

[1] Joel Moker's Lever of Riches: Technological Creativity and Economic Progress. I'd also highly recommend Moker's "The Gifts of Athena"