[matheusmoreira]

Maybe patronage schemes? Crowdfunding? I have no idea. I just know that we can't go on like this.

The only way to enforce copyright in the 21st century is to destroy computing freedom. I'd rather sacrifice the entire copyright industry than have computers that only run software they approve.

[Godel_unicode]

Except that's not true. There is tons of copywritten work sold online without DRM. It's just a matter of getting the business model right.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1000265...

> every song from Amazon MP3 is DRM-free and encoded in high-quality 256-kbps MP3 format. This means that they will play on any MP3 player, so you don't need to worry about file format compatibility or licenses that expire.

[Arainach]

The production costs in music are orders of magnitude lower than those for video. It takes far fewer people far fewer days to record a song than a TV show or a movie. The equipment involved in recording, mixing, and special effects are all dramatically cheaper, which also makes the entire process more accessible and enables scales that do not exist for most media.

A business model for one thing does not generalize.

[Godel_unicode]

The cost of the input is irrelevant.

Sell things for money generalized pretty well in basically every other field. It actually generalized pretty well in video too. This is just adding "remove the DRM". It'll be fine once all the old studio execs retire...

[Arainach]

The cost of the input affects the cost of the output, which makes all the difference in the world.

Let's start with the most obvious: "sell things for money" hasn't worked out that well in music. Streaming services (with DRM) are 83% of revenue in the music industry now: https://www.businessofbusiness.com/articles/vinyl-record-sal...

The price of music is dramatically lower. Its consumption model is entirely different - a song may be played dozens of times on a radio station or a streaming platform, each performance for pennies. Video, on the other hand, is predominately a single-shot mechanism. There's enough new content that almost no customers will watch the same piece of video multiple times. You have to make back all of your revenue in that initial purchase. Combined with higher production costs, you need higher prices. You also need a guarantee people will have to pay those prices to justify the investment and even begin the process. DRM is such a guarantee.

[Godel_unicode]

First, streaming services charge people money and sell them a thing: access to music. Not liking it won't make that different than movie tickets.

Second, the price is identical. Streaming providers charge $10/month (or very close to it) regardless of what the content is. Also, albums when new are $10-$20, and movies new are $10-$20.

[matheusmoreira]

Very few stores choose not to enforce copyright. Those that do have smaller selections of works for sale because copyright holders refuse to sell their stuff there. The result is still a service that's inferior to copyright infringement.

[Godel_unicode]

> Those that do have smaller selections of works for sale...

Did you not see the name in the link? More to the point, can you point me to a major music store which does use DRM? I'm not aware of one. Perhaps you've been pirating music so long you missed the shift? It happened around 2009.

Here's an article from 2014 about the steps to remove DRM from your pre-2009 library. Tl;Dr, delete and redownload from Apple, no DRM! This is Apple's recommended approach.

https://www.wired.com/2014/03/kill-itunes-drm/

[matheusmoreira]

Yes, I did see your link. I guarantee you if I search certain songs in there, they won't even sell them to me because of where I live. No doubt all the pop stuff is there but I don't like that stuff.

In any case, I don't listen to music very often. When I want to listen to something, I just look up specific songs on YouTube. I never cared enough to "pirate" music but I can tell you that the quality of "pirated" music is orders of magnitude higher than whatever is sold by Amazon. The people in those communities go to truly incredible lengths to ensure they have the highest quality audio possible. Companies generally just want to push out a release for the lowest possible cost.

I care more about films, series, video games and software in general. You'll find that in those categories DRM is the rule.

[Godel_unicode]

And yet you provide no songs. Fascinating.