[graddrisrp]

Agreed but we then need to accept to loose most of our modern day comfort, going back to 40years expectancy, most of the population dies ... which is probably not what we should aim for. Nature works like the rabbit and fox differential model. The only way for the fox, aka we need to try to grow as long as possible otherwise most of us will die brutally

[jacobr1]

It is a plausible that a larger, richer society can:

* more rapidly improve its technology, both to reduce energy use and to reduce emissions * afford to pay for mitigations of the problems that do occur * can consider larger projects like geoengineering * afford to slow its growth, it is easier to avoid the need for future growth when you are already wealthy * better make us of economies of scale to improve per-person efficiencies * specialize in the tasks required to managed a higher climate variance, energy production diverse and more rapidly changing world

[corinroyal]

Says who? There are plenty of different ways to order production without leaving it in the hands of unaccountable sociopaths. The options aren't extractive capitalism or the stone age. Endless growth isn't inevitable, or even possible.