[ajuc]

He debunks a lot of stuff, but debunking feminist-gone-crazy is very controversial so now he is considered sexist :/

As a guy living in conservative country where women actually are discriminated and have to fight for their rights I find it very sad that this pseudofeminist bullshit becomes the face of the movement.

It is very harmful to have a constant stream of "pacman is sexist" or "kill all men" from the west used by alt-right to point out "see this is where this whole feminism thing leads to - that's why you can't have legal abortion or civil partherships or anti-family-violence legislation".

I know there are always fringe groups in every movement, my problem is that you cannot criticize them without getting a label that instantly destroys your credibility for a lot of people. It's not sustainable, eventually this will discourage people from talking about women rights at all, even in the west.

[JeremyBanks]

It sounds like your description of those feminists came from his videos. You should try watching them so you have a more accurate take. Anita isn't nearly as much of a radical as she's painted.

[ajuc]

I watched several podcasts of Anita and they were all pretty much the same. A game shows half-naked women = sexism. The same game shows half-naked men but that's ignored. A game shows tortured women = objectification. The same game shows tortured men (including by women) but that's ignored. The game allows you to kill women = sexism. The same game allows you to kill men, but that's fine. Now support us at ....

In my opinion if a game worked like they want it to (you can only kill/torture and see naked men) - only then it would be sexist.

[axbytg]

Can you imagine that perhaps there are factors that make a man killing and torturing a man different from a man killing and torturing a woman? Surely you can, sexual dimorphism is a thing! What if I told you there is a type of sexual dimorphism that exists in society wherein women are treated entirely differently than men?

In fact, what if equality didn't mean murdering an equal number of men and women in video games, and instead that is just a silly distraction? I promise you no serious people are discussing the ratio of sexes killed in video games to do anything impactful.

[ajuc]

> Can you imagine that perhaps there are factors that make a man killing and torturing a man different from a man killing and torturing a woman?

Sure, there's even a name for that kind of factors: sexism. That's the reason pay gap is a problem that is talked about but life expectancy gap isn't.

Feminism was supposed to fix sexism not to reinforce it, though.

> that is just a silly distraction

Well, yes, in the end it's just art critique. But even that should be a topic that you can discuss without being labeled as chauvinist the moment you disagree.

[axbytg]

> Well, yes, in the end it's just art critique. But even that should be a topic that you can discuss without being labeled as chauvinist the moment you disagree.

Wow, it sounds like perhaps you have been called a chauvinist for expressing these same opinions before! Perhaps instead of blocking out that critique you can meditate on it. To be honest, you are hitting all of their talking points.

[ajuc]

I didn't, as I said I live in a very conservative country and I'm considered extreme left-wing here :) I've been called communist and libtard on the other hand :) I don't particularly care because I don't depend on my reputation for living like scientists and youtubers do.

But I've seen people like Thunderfoot called such names and dismissed on first sight and I don't think that's fair.