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by BrandoElFollito 1786 days ago
The (or one of the) threads that feature how people are offended by a hat on a cone: https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=96539
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Similarly, VSCode faced the same issue: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/87268 which they then apologised for: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/87440

I wonder if the difference in response due to 8 years of shift in culture, or just different size of the maintainer?

It's not just time span. VSCode is a Microsoft project, and there's probably quite a bit of US corporate culture around it.
I am surprised that they are serious when saying "even a single person being offended is one too many". Not want to start yet another flamewar on CoCs, but how is such a rule even practically enforced ? Given it's impossible to respect for a project of this scale with this many users, it just feels like a fake statement for good PR I feel like this makes the whole move even less respectful that if they'd have done nothing about the Santa hat complains
Yeah that makes no sense. Can I just say I'm offended about anything and they'll change it? Obviously not.
That first one is incredible. Getting offended on behalf of Jews for the millions of lives caused by... What, Christmas?
The amount of effort exerted for that is insane.
The maintainer of VLC is French. We have a culture of parody and making fun of everything.

This costs lives - people in France are killed because they made fun of the imaginary friend of some people. This is horrible and, unfortunately, we as a society start to give up. Teachers are told to be sensitive and not show pictures of gods, tomorrow this will be creationism and homeopathy and we will end up as another US.

I get offended all the time, but people are free to express their minds without fear. Even if they are obviously wrong because they do not agree with me (whom in contrast is always right and they do not get it).

Blackmail, master git branch, blacklists - all these changes are simply idiotic and the people who are proud of having changed that (and removing a hat on an IDE) probably do not realize that everyone officially tells them that we are proud of not offending them anymore, and when the micros are off they are called negros, twags and whatever word is painful to them. This is really sad.

They are the first ones to lose here, by having invisible walls built around.

I have a very good friend (a woman) who left a great company because she joined when the "diversity" program was live. She was told by her male colleagues that it used to be who you know, who you sleep with and now if you are a good match for diversity. She was brilliant but could not stand that and left for a smaller and more normal company.

All these forced ratio and PC is really against the ones it tries to help or make comfortable or not offend. And to be clear - having been on the receiver side of such campaigns (a minority), it took some time to build trust wit the ones who were not part of the minority. I also felt how it is to be a mnority as a kid - and it was horrible.

But PC is not the way to fix that.

I used somewhere else the analogy of catholics in France. They are being made fun of, they react (or not) but it ends here. This is the reason why they are integrated to French culture, and protected by this culture. The village I live in has a yearly mass outside of the church. As a complete atheist I find this great because this is a tradition and I like to see the folklore (whihc is faith for the ones who attend the mass). OTOH catholics do not try anymore to actively get in your bed to check what you do there, or try to push some god into our school books. And we like them.

I am offended that people didn't recognize that post as a joke. Or - alternatively - a ridiculous position that is tantamount to a joke.

Seriously, while on the one hand I welcome that we have become more culturally sensitive, on the other hand in some situations we should just get a thicker skin and learn again to say 'nope'.

Yea I remember when it went down, being a lifelong user of VLC I was pretty active there. It seemed obvious to me it was a joke, but so many were sure it was not.

Happened here the other day in a Perl thread. Someone made a pretty funny (to me) joke. Having used Perl too much I appreciated the joke but some read it differently.

Like the tabs v spaces, Vim or Emacs, to me it seems funny and nothing to get riled over but some just become so invested in taking offense/personal.

You're right, one might invoke Poe's law in relation to complaints about a hat on a cone.