[throwawaysea]

> Then you'll need to homeschool them.

This would be fair if the equivalent public school spending for that student were instead given back to parents as a voucher to spend on homeschooling or on a different education provider of their choice with different vaccination requirements. But otherwise there is a financial coercion into divulging health choices or giving up bodily autonomy that doesn’t feel right to me.

[derkster]

I don't understand the concept of fairness when we're talking about something that has killed more Americans than every war since the Civil War combined. I would consider every death caused by the asymptomatic much more unfair than someone having to pay for a charter school for the luxury of being a liability to the general public every time they step outside their home.

Every one of us will end up having to pay for the problems caused by 1/3rd the population feeling they have the right to risk my life because of unfounded fears. If said people were so worried about their life, they would do the same risk analysis lots of us did. It's very clear that COVID is more likely to fuck me up than the vaccine.

And if it turns out the data was a result of every first world country in the world coordinating amongst themselves to spread an insanely damaging lie telling us exactly the opposite of the truth, we have much much worse problems.

[mensetmanusman]

Obesity has and will kill more than COVID as well. Also, health care spending due to obesity is also extreme.

[derkster]

I'm not sure why a lot of disagreements surrounding this issue devolve in to pointing the finger at some issue that has nothing to do with COVID. I assume it's an attempt to diminish the severity of COVID, by comparing a transmittable disease to one that's not?

To but it simply, I don't risk dying from obesity simply by being in proximity with someone morbidly obese. I risk contracting COVID, and potentially dying by sitting next to someone who has COVID.

What's your thoughts on this?

[mensetmanusman]

There have been studies that show group social dynamics can spread (like behavioral viruses), e.g. the behavior traits that lead to obesity do in fact spread due to the conforming nature of humans.

Timescales are, of course, orders of magnitude different, and maybe that is the only difference that “matters”. E.g. we would still rearrange chairs on a slowly sinking titanic because that’s what humans do.

[grepfru_it]

Remember when employer-sponsered healthcare plans tried to mandate how birth control could be used by women? I couldn't help but notice a lot of people arguing against their own rights.. and now here we are

[hef19898]

Birth control and, for that matter, abortion is only affecting one, max. two, people. Vaccinations against a pandemic is affecting everyone. Big difference.