[paxprose]

It isn't though.

Sure if you got sick and crawled into a ditch and died then more power to you.

Instead you would end up going to a hospital and wasting a bunch of peoples time, and in the event your dumbass dies from it - some poor man/woman has to hold your hand while you gurgle out your deathrattle.

Being selfish with your own life in a society never just affects you. That's why it's a society. Someone will always have to clean up your shit when you make poor decisions with your life.

[umvi]

So are we going to outlaw being selfish? People waste hospital time and resources all the time with a plethora of things other than covid. Should we take away their agency so they can't do that anymore?

[mannykannot]

There are not many comparable cases, where the selfish behavior gives a very measurable reinvigoration to a global pandemic for which the longer it persists the greater the risk that it will spawn a variant that puts us back to step 1 - or worse.

[BackBlast]

You can't put the genie back into the bottle no matter how hard you crack the authoritarian whip.

[BrandoElFollito]

No we will not. But if you get close to my family that is fragile and may dire if they catch the virus then I will respond with the same selfish force as you.

That is physically harm you to make sure you die in a safe place, not in my yard

Sounds fair.

("you" of course means "the unvaccinated who use their freedom to hurt others")

[umvi]

Would you do the same if someone accidentally killed your family members in a DUI? (i.e. kill the person who was DWI)?

[BrandoElFollito]

Someone driving under influence who has an accident is committing an attempt of a murder, or a murder if there are victims.

There are all kind of possible accidents, DUI is the kind where someone decides that they take the risk of other lives. Similar to the recent accident in Italy where a ski lift was purposely not maintained to avoid stopping it. They knew that they are risking someone's life.

With this said there are two cases:

- the one when someone drives under DUI and I have to kill him to avoid a possible direct accident towards me or my family (by pushing his car from a cliff or something). I would nit hesitate.

- after the accident. I am for a death sentence for specific cases where it is a matter of getting rid of human trash (rapes, murders with premeditation, paedophilia, ...). In that case it is a matter of social hygiene. In the case of DUI I am at the edge, with the possibility of someone to spend years helping the society to try to redeem

[benmmurphy]

on average if you move forward your death you end up saving society money so they are actually be selfless not selfish.

[cmoscoso]

OTOH, if the person has bitcoin and dies it is considered a donation to other users.