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by yboris 1787 days ago
It's not a utilitarian "trick" to care about numbers. No one will disagree that 2 death is worse than 1.

And people who are insensitive to numbers, I think, just don't understand math. Breaking a bone is not as bad as a death, but 100 billion people experiencing broken bones is, I would say, worse than 1 death.

No negative utilitarianism needs to be invoked to make the argument that creating suffering is bad. The claim isn't that there is no possible benefit that we could have from farming bugs (even if they are sentient), but that the expected benefits are mediocre at best (just buttressing an already horrific status quo of farming animals).

The key phrase in my sentence you quoted is "essential or necessary". In order to counter my claim you would need to explain how the benefits of bug farming outweigh the potentially horrific state of torturing trillions of sentient beings.

ps - in principle, I am on board with "happy bug farms" where the needs of bugs are met, and they are happy. If we could guarantee this, I would be for it -- more happy sentient creatures the better. But you and I know that in fact, in our world, with profits being anti-correlated with taking care of the sentient beings at factory farms, starting bug factory farms shouldn't be embraced.