[throwaway210222]

> What's the alternative?

A single multicultural country, with equal (ie. indistinguishable) rights and obligations (including Aliyah) to every 'type' of citizen.

Rather than just a first world playground for one faction.

You did ask.

[jkkorn]

I did! Although it was pertaining to "relatiation" i'm happy to offer my two cents on this as well.

Almost that entire sentence exists today in israel. Rights are the same for all israeli citizens. Israeli muslims and israeli jews have the same rights inside the state of israel. Muslims are the third largest political party (and are part of the current coalition), they are supreme court judges (heck, a muslim judge sentenced the jewish president to prison).

On Aliyah: Im not too familiar with how different it is to Aliyah as a jew then as a muslim, but it's more likely to be easier as jew. The general idea is that it's a jewish state. Most people here will be opposed to a jewish state, that's fine. Humanity has an awful track record with the jews, might be best to finally let them be autonomous.

"Rather than just a first world playground for one faction." Not entirely sure what this means.

> You did ask.

Yep :) and glad you did. Personally I think a two state solution is more viable. What I don't think is constructive is assuming that the entire onus is on one side. Takes two to tango, right? WestBank palestinians have had two leaders. Ever. Arafat was adamant about establishing power, while Abbas is eager to keep it. That's why he's completing his 14th year in his 4 year mandate. He keeps cancelling elections because if Hamas wins (like they did in Gaza) he will at best be exiled. Just recently he had an opposition leader assassinated.https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/palestinian...

Fatah is hell bent in keeping the status quo.

Hamas is hell bent in destroying Israel. It's in their charter. They're way more extreme than Fatah.

Plenty of mosques in Israel, 2 million muslims there living peacefully. Can't say the same about palestinian territories where jews and synagogues are not allowedd.

It seems you'd just like Israel to take all the responsibility for the conflict, cease to exist and roll over. Hopefully I'm wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realignment_plan

[throwaway210222]

> 'same rights'

I said 'same rights and same obligations'.

You aren't equal (as in indistinguishably, truly equal) without both.

But a nice attempt to frame the conversation. [Do they send you on courses?]

[jkkorn]

>You aren't equal (as in indistinguishably, truly equal) without both.

If you live in the country the law is the same for everyone. No? Don't know what the obligations are. I'm not the "you" , clearly you're super knowledgable, go for it.

> But a nice attempt to frame the conversation. [Do they send you on courses?] Errr thanks?

Humanity has tried the whole "jews living under arab rule" before and it sucked. You can bash the israelis all you want but they're doing a much better job than anything a palestinian/arab rule would do to jews.