[throwaway140820]

Are you implying Mozilla Firefox cares less about the user than Apple? Why not let Mozilla have it's browser on iOS? It's not about the user, it's about having an iron chokehold on the developers and we are too cool aid drunk to call it out.

[falcolas]

> Are you implying Mozilla Firefox cares less about the user than Apple?

If I look at Pocket and some of their surprise telemetry decisions, I think it's a reasonable implication. They care more about the standards and "providing an alternative to X" than they do the end user.

[otterley]

Mozilla is mostly funded by Google.

[howinteresting]

And that's irrelevant, Mozilla's decision-making is quite independent of Google's.

Firefox on Android is an excellent browser. Firefox on iOS could be the same if Apple let go of its chokehold.

[otterley]

> Mozilla's decision-making is quite independent of Google's.

Mozilla certainly keeps the source of their funding in mind when making certain key decisions, in much the same way that elected officials do with respect to their donors. In fact, it's even more significant because Mozilla's funding primarily comes from a single source. And you can't just piss off your sole major benefactor without consequence.

The argument that they have the luxury to make independent decisions would be more plausible if their foundation were funded out of a legacy foundation or something like that.

[falcolas]

Firefox on iOS is an excellent browser. I use it as my daily driver, and it works perfectly well.

[robotnikman]

It is still built on top of Safari, so it lacks features such as extensions.

One of the few things which holds me back of switching to an iPhone is a true version of Firefox

[howinteresting]

It doesn't have uBlock Origin, which I consider an essential part of a good browser.