[slindz]

So true.

I have this uneasy reliance on Chrome for supporting PWA's properly since Mozilla lost interest.

It's a life/routine manager for people with horrible memories. Chrome stands alone in supporting web push notifications :S

[spfzero]

The last thing I’d want is a web push notification. I don’t have a favorite browser, but if there were one which blocked pop-ups asking me to assent to notifications, it would be my new favorite.

[slindz]

Web push notifications would only apply to PWA's, which you have to deliberately install by seeking out the add to home screen menu item.

They are not the nuisance you are making them out to be.

[rand49an]

At least in Chrome and Edge you can just disable notifications completely in the settings menu.

[roca]

How did Mozilla lose interest? Firefox for Android supports PWAs. Firefox supports push notifications on both Android and desktop.

[slindz]

A decision came down in January to drop ongoing support. This included removing previously working functionality.

Here was a discussion from January: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25589177

[dhosek]

Safari supports web push notifications. I have never wanted them.

[spartanatreyu]

Safari doesn't support background sync, so its PWAs are barely functional. You could be getting more notifications than you need because of it.

[slindz]

Can you appreciate how a memory challenged/privacy conscious person might find it helpful to opt in to web push notifications?

[dhosek]

I can see memory challenged, but not privacy conscious.

The big problem from my perspective is in the user experience. On my first visit to a site, they ask me if I want notifications. It's my first visit, I know nothing about the site. Why would I say yes? Later, if I had changed my mind, I might want to, although in most cases, I'd rather just use an RSS feed and get updates when it's convenient for me rather than for them. I have yet to encounter the scenario where website notifications are better than old-school RSS.

On the privacy front? I don't see how this helps in any way with privacy. It seems like it would be more likely to be a privacy nightmare than a privacy boon.

[falcolas]

> Can you appreciate how a memory challenged/privacy conscious person might find it helpful to opt in to web push notifications?

By relying on Chrome, the least privacy conscious web browser in existence? Not really.

Just make an app. All of the benefits, fewer privacy compromises. But, it requires more work on the developer's end, so I also understand why they might not want to. Just stop trying to paint their decisions as being privacy conscious.