[renewiltord]

So called "Real Engineering" fields kill people at such a high rate. Software engineers are way better. Despite all the value created, a vanishingly small number of people have been killed.

That's the funny thing. As a software engineer, if I have to build something that might kill someone, I just don't do it. But so-called "real engineers"? Bam, condo building down, people dead. Bridge down, people dead. Tacoma Narrows? Experimenting on people.

If "real engineers" were half as good at their job as I am at mine, we'd have a space elevator and people would be going up and down it every hour and the only problem they'd face is that the music is sometimes not that great. But they're too busy killing people to create $10 in value. I'm too busy not killing people and creating $1 million in value. The numbers don't lie, dude. The numbers don't lie. More value made. Fewer dead people.

People don't like to hear it because of the fetishization of this "Real Engineering" nonsense. But it's true. Software engineering's generational scandals are outdone by a "real engineering" project every day.

[c-cube]

Maybe it's because real engineering has higher stakes than a crud app. Condos can kill, bridges can kill, Javascript forms or video game engines generally can't. If they could we'd witness a lot more deaths, despite your confidence.

[renewiltord]

I have a personal philosophy: "if you can't do it well, don't do it at all". That's because I prize my ability at what I do. I am good at it. I am a craftsman. Not like these fly-by-night characters busy dropping concrete on people's heads. Maybe I need to teach these "real engineers" something about building things haha: "If you can't do it without killing people, don't do it". Man, that's a motto for the ages. You'd think you don't have to teach people that, but here we are.

Maybe we should teach them ethics, because whatever class they took on that, it didn't take. As a practitioner of quality and making money with zero killing, I could help.

[Nicksil]

>I have a personal philosophy: "if you can't do it well, don't do it at all". That's because I prize my ability at what I do. I am good at it. Maybe I need to teach these "real engineers" something about building things haha: "If you can't do it without killing people, don't do it". Man, that's a motto for the ages. You'd think you don't have to teach people that, but here we are.

You're trying too hard. It's embarrassing.

[strangeattractr]

Why bother with the software engineering, your moral sensibilities are needed everywhere. It's not every day someone emerges capable of writing a todo app in react without killing anyone

[renewiltord]

HAHA! What can I say? Some of us are made of sterner stuff.

[jazzyjackson]

I see an awful lot of skyscrapers not falling down every day, stands to reason some engineers are good at what they do, no?

[renewiltord]

Oh there are good engineers, certainly. But the field as a whole clearly is immature since it causes more deaths than software engineers do.

[markus_zhang]

I actually agree with you. People keep doing shitty jobs in real engineering e.g. construction. It's just most of the time people don't have the skills to notice it.