[lancesells]

While I'm not a proponent of UBI I'm not sure it's a trick. It's coming from a lot of different people and places. I think it's an idea that people want to try and think it might work. Personally, I think it's an idea that will ultimately be abused by corporations and the government.

[daenz]

The point is that it makes peoples survival dependent on the whims of politicians. In the future, if they choose to disqualify you from UBI for any reason, what recourse do you have? We should not be giving politicians direct coercive control over our lives.

And to people who say "if they disqualify you, then it's not universal, ha!": legislators don't let things like simple semantics stop them from enacting laws. If they really need to, they'll just re-define the word.

[LargoLasskhyfv]

Paying your debt to society by walking into the photo booth for your last 'flash', turned into soylent green, escape the machine!1!!

[lelanthran]

> It's coming from a lot of different people and places.

I don't see that at all - all the proponents of UBI have the same political alignment. I don't see any cross-demographic support of UBI.