[raganwald]

Since you said "most people," I guess I'm disqualified from saying that I have deep Java experience and dislike the language, you can simply retort that I'm not a True Scotsman, I'm just an outlier. But nevertheless, I press on. I built Java development tools in C++, I led teams of 20+ devs, I built online banking applications, I wrote a Scheme interpreter in Java, yak, yak, yak, and yes I put Java down.

C++ is another matter entirely. My experience is pre-Boost, so I don't consider myself qualified to debate current approaches.