[foobar33333]

Or your own money. I did the math and I was spending more money on just electricity to run my home server than it would cost to pay for the services it provided. Not to mention the initial cost of the hardware you need to host it.

A raspberry pi is not sufficient for running things like nextcloud in any kind of performant way.

[Saris]

A box with an i5-4570 or similar and 8GB of RAM costs about $80 to buy, and uses ~25W or around $25-30 a year in power. A comparable VPS or Dedicated box is easily 10x the cost.

I think people see those ridiculous rack-mount servers some people run at home that suck down 300+ watts and assume that's just normal!

I went for even lower power usage, with an i3-7100u box that uses about 2W most of the day and cost $75 plus some extra RAM.

[foobar33333]

Depends what services you need. I used to be doing a lot with my server but then it became just static web hosting and nextcloud which I replaced with the cheapest google storage plan and gitlab pages.

These days power usage might be workable with something like a mac mini server. I did a test and my ryzen 5 server with 3 HDDs was drawing 75w minimum and my area has quite expensive power so it just didn't make sense to keep running it.

A VPS also comes with a lot of really useful advantages. You aren't tied down to the hardware. As your needs change, you can change the scale of the VPS. Right now I still have the homeserver sitting here waiting to be sold as well as some other previous machines which were not powerful enough.

A VPS is also relatively unaffected by things like power and internet outages. It just keeps working. It's more convenient when you move house since you don't have downtime in the process. It has a dedicated fixed IP address and ipv6 with no fucking around with CGNAT or blocked ports.

Just buying a fixed IP address would cost an extra $5/month.

Once you consider every cost, a VPS can seem pretty good value in many cases.

[ValentineC]

> A box with an i5-4570 or similar and 8GB of RAM costs about $80 to buy, and uses ~25W or around $25-30 a year in power.

I'm guessing you're looking at the preowned market?

For those prices, people might consider themselves lucky to get an underpowered Celeron with BYO RAM and storage, brand new.

[Saris]

Yep! Not much point in buying new hardware for running basic services at home, especially since used business stuff is so cheap, it can cost 1/10th the amount for similar results of buying new.

[skydhash]

I'm currently using a mac mini 2011 that I got from free from work (it did not support newer xcode and mojave). I'm the only user and have Lychee, Jellyfin, Syncthing on it.

[ekianjo]

> on just electricity to run my home server than it would cost to pay for the services it provided. Not to mention the initial cost of the hardware you need to host it.

Most servers with enough GB of RAM and powerful processors can cost in the 50/100 USD range to rent per month. It's much cheaper to self host beyond a rock bottom VPS. Leaving a modern PC on the whole time will not cost that much in a month, and what you invest in hardware will pay for itself with the difference over time.

[detaro]

enough RAM for what? Without diving into the bargain bin, I get a 64 GB VPS or dedicated server for ~$50, that's quite a lot. (And I don't need it, so I pay ~11€ for a 16 GB VPS, and even that's overkill for me)

[maccard]

Where are you getting 64GB of ram on a dedicated server for $50/month? Even OVH and hetzner charge almost double that.

[detaro]

Hetzner EX42 and AX41 both start at 40.46 € (local price, so incl. 19% VAT), how is that almost $100?

[stan_rogers]

If you need multiple GB of RAM, you're probably doing it wrong.

[ekianjo]

doing what wrong? There are applications that require several GB of RAM.

[lapinot]

Do you mean gitlab? :)

[ekianjo]

Nifi, Kafka, etc...