[user48a]

On one hand I wanted to try this but then I was not comfortable with giving some website access to my webcam. Maybe I am just old and paranoid... EDIT: I brought the age factor up because I am under the impression that people born after 2000 are so used to getting filmed and photographed everywhere that they don't have such reservations

[JackC]

> people born after 2000 are so used to getting filmed and photographed everywhere that they don't have such reservations

It's more complicated than not having reservations -- younger people share more online but are also more likely to take steps to protect their privacy:

https://www.vox.com/2016/11/2/13390458/young-millennials-ove...

You can find what you want in the data, but my personal read is everyone does what they have to do. Older people have the option of just opting out without losing access to their community (how much social capital are you losing by not checking out that link?), while younger people have to engage in order to be part of their community, so they get more exposure to what can go wrong and take more risks but also more steps to protect themselves.

If you're engaging with people of a different generation I'd strongly encourage taking this approach -- if I assume you're making smart choices about dealing with the social system you're in, rather than doing something dumb, what does that tell me about the situation you're facing and what kind of support you might need?

[rchaud]

That article is from November 2016. The conversations about privacy and personal information have evolved massively since then. Cambridge Analytica, Facebook's $5bn FTC fine, and TikTok's takeover of youth social media were all yet to happen.

This quoted bit below says it all:

"But when I poke through 10 years of Facebook, I see something else altogether. We’re not an oversharing generation. We’re a generation that’s over sharing — done, finished, kaput, through. … All the chatty candor and hyperactive disclosure of our early years on Facebook now look like just another kind of youthful indulgence."

All this means is that this person has 'aged out' of their FB phase. What about the hundreds of millions of younger people still on IG, Snap and TikTok?

[depressedpanda]

I'm not exactly young, but I gave the site temporary access without thinking much about it; I know the tech and I'm confident my browser will revoke access as soon as I close the tab.

I realize now, that I did not consider what the site might do while it has access. Maybe a video or pictures of me blinking are uploaded to some shady server somewhere now.

[user48a]

That was exactly my concern: Somehow I'm just not comfortable with the thought of them having these pictures of me... kind of silly but still...

[ALittleLight]

Security cameras and such record you all the time though out in public. I presume there are many random servers containing video where you are blinking.

[TchoBeer]

What are you afraid of them doing with that?

[yreg]

I'm happy to send a gif of me blinking to any attacker who wants it.

[0xdeadb00f]

Same realisation here. This is the only time I have ever granted camera access to a website. And even though this is a legitimate project, I feel as if they can take advantage of that access.

[r-k-jo]

No worries, it seems like using tensorflow.js and running locally on your browser.

https://github.com/tensorflow/tfjs-models/tree/master/face-l...

here is as a live demo from google

https://storage.googleapis.com/tfjs-models/demos/face-landma...

[the_third_wave]

> EDIT: I brought the age factor up because I am under the impression that people born after 2000 are so used to getting filmed and photographed everywhere that they don't have such reservations

If my daughters are anything to go by you seem to be right. I'm trying to make sure that at least the home network and devices used on it leak as little personal data as possible - router-based content blocking (ads etc.), DNS proxy which blackholes unwanted domains, search through Searx, Youtube proxied through Invidious, Twitter proxied through Nitter, Reddit proxied through libreddit, Nextcloud for "cloudy" things, Exim4 for mail, Pixelfed for photo sharing, Peertube for video, Airsonic for audio/books, etc - but they really don't seem to care one bit whether they're being tracked and profiled by the world and its dog. They don't seem to realise there is no need to allow those companies to leech them for all their data nor do they seem to realise the potential negatives in allowing the leeches to parasitize them. At least they are not on TikTok (which I block at the router), Facebook (the site, one of them uses Instagram and as such still remains within Zuck's clutches) or Twitter.

[oefnak]

If you ever find out how to explain it to them, let me know.

[zepearl]

Same here (born in the 70') - I went as far as allowing temporary access by the page, but then concerning the browser itself (Opera on Android in my case) I had only the options to "Allow" or "Deny" access to the camera => I wanted to try this out, but in the end I just couldn't => had to decline :(

[fouc]

It would be nice if the browser had finer-grained controls, i.e. if you could monitor the amount of data the website attempts to send.. possibly even mock the webcam first and send a fake video to see what happens.

[tvirosi]

This is why I let so many cool eye tracking ideas left on the shelf. I can't imagine many people will be ok with using it - even though there's so many cool use cases - simply because they'll be paranoid. Not sure how to start to build all the cool futuristic apps for iris tracking now that it's a solved problem.