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by spaniard89277 1795 days ago
Trade Unions have access to companies microdata now. If there such pay gap, there's no excuse now.

I don't really want to get into a large discussion, but I know the data sources of these studies as I used them pretty often, and you'll have to be pretty creative, either with data or with definitions.

This issue for me is very linked with my distrust of academia, is not just this issue.

I went to uni (sociology) in my mid 20s and I wasn't impressed with the ethical standards of the field, let's say that.
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lifthrasiir 1795 days ago
Gender pay gap is not just about the wage equality in the same companies (AFAIK this is what the 2021 law concerns). It can for example also arise from the selective employment, which effectively segregates the labor force by gender. If my reading of the Global Gender Gap Index is correct, the disparity of estimated earned income in Spain is 34.9% (score 0.651), which suggests this scenario.

> I went to uni (sociology) in my mid 20s and I wasn't impressed with the ethical standards of the field, let's say that.

This honestly sounds like conspiracy believers. If you feel a particular statistics is flawed (perfectly possible by the way) you ought to give a counter evidence, not your anecdote.

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spaniard89277 1795 days ago
> selective employment

That's mostly an effect of what women study, and motherhood.

There's a discussion about nature/nurture, the gender paradox and all that behind those figures.

> This honestly sounds like conspiracy believers. If you feel a particular statistics is flawed (perfectly possible by the way) you ought to give a counter evidence, not your anecdote.

I don't really want to vent out publicly here, I already did too much, but someone influential in this field was my professor. This professor admitted, maybe without being aware of so, that the results of the research being conducted in that moment were being massaged to fit the hypothesis.

Look, IDK, my nick can already be linked to my real persona, so understand I don't want to get into details here. In fact I'm not sure if I should be posting this, as it could affect future job prospects.

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lifthrasiir 1795 days ago
> That's mostly an effect of what women study, and motherhood.

I secretly wanted to see the actual arguments based on numbers since I'm very aware that the global survey like this can fail to account for domestic contexts, but yeah, typical canned arguments.

I personally don't care who you are (except for your country in question), but if you feel unsafe about the discussion after all you'd rather not talk about it at all. In the other words, expect the criticism if you keep posting those typical canned arguments.

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taurath 1795 days ago
> That's mostly an effect of what women study, and motherhood.

Have you seen data from companies showing total comp of each individual? Every study I’ve seen shows discrimination after accounting for differences in education. I’ve known many women in different workplaces that were not being paid equally.

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username90 1795 days ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/technology/google-gender-...
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