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by SimonPStevens 1792 days ago
This still seems no different from giving the employee a payday loan (admittedly at zero percent interest).

It's not going to solve anything because they are just taking money early that they will need next month.

It might seem attractive initially, but within a few months the status quo will have reset and those employees who were living paycheck to paycheck will still be living paycheck to paycheck, just now it will be day by day waiting for their accrued amount to increase.

I suspect as a company you could do well, but you aren't solving any problems for the employee. And you may find that as business pressure increases you'll end up exploiting them in some way because they are vulnerable and have little protection. It won't be long before someone on your board says something like "hey, we could make a bit more money if we start charging x% interest to get early access pay they won't accrue until next month. That's fair because we're taking the risk they might not accrue it all." And before you know it you are just as bad as every other payday lender out there.

This unexpected expenses thing sounds like poor justification to me.

And charging the company Vs the employee is no different. If you didn't charge the company they could instead increase the wages of their staff by the equivalent amount. You are just taking money out of the potential pot that goes to the staff. Staff costs is just a single line on our summary p&l which includes salaries and benefits.

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> It might seem attractive initially, but within a few months the status quo will have reset and those employees who were living paycheck to paycheck will still be living paycheck to paycheck, just now it will be day by day waiting for their accrued amount to increase.

Except now they have money available to them in realtime, continuously according to the work they've put in, without having to wait for discrete points in time where their bank account refills.

> This unexpected expenses thing sounds like poor justification to me.

The fact that people use it shows people want it. The paternalism towards people who don't have enough money is really staggering. This line of argumentation reeks of "Poor people cant manage their finances - they dont know whats good to them"

> And charging the company Vs the employee is no different. If you didn't charge the company they could instead increase the wages of their staff by the equivalent amount. You are just taking money out of the potential pot that goes to the staff. Staff costs is just a single line on our summary p&l which includes salaries and benefits.

Salaries have other pressures maintaining them besides available funds for salary, like minimum wage and market rates. As we have known for years based on the utter failure of "trickle-down economics", salaries paid and available funds often have little to do with one-another.