[smoldesu]

"Their" CPUs meaning x86 platforms, in this case.

Plus, who's surprised? This is how Intel makes money. The consumer segment is a plaything for them, the real high-rollers are in the server segment, where they butter them up with fancy technology and the finest digital linens. Is it dumb? A little, but it's hardly a "problem" unless you intended to ship this software on first-party hardware which, hint-hint, the license forbids in the first place.

At the end of the day, this doesn't really irk me. I can buy a compatible processor for less than $50, that's accessible enough.

[stonemetal12]

No, Their CPUs as in ones from Intel. Intel has long done a thing in their compilers where they detect the CPU model, and run less optimized code if it isn't Intel. They claim it is because they can't be sure "Other" processors have correctly implemented SSE and other extensions. So Intel Linux is going to run faster on an Intel CPU because it was compiled with ICC.

[zorgmonkey]

I don't know much about it, but Intel's clear linux does not use icc this is in their FAQ https://docs.01.org/clearlinux/latest/FAQ/index.html#does-it...

[Sanguinaire]

This is trivially easy to defeat, just so you know. If anyone reading is ever in need of optimized math library performance on AMD, just speak to your hardware/cloud vendor; they all know the tricks.

[klelatti]

Link says Core Gen 10 or Xeon so you may be out of luck on AMD or at less than $50.

I think this is more likely aimed at AMD than Arm - don't think Arm is yet a threat in this space - and whilst they're entitled to do what they want it does make me less enthused about Intel and frankly more likely to support their competitors.

[mumblemumble]

AMD has their own equivalent: https://developer.amd.com/amd-aocl/

I'm not sure it's a sin for hardware manufacturers to support their products? In the days of yore, we even expected it of them.

[klelatti]

Not a sin but it's not really just about supporting (or optimising) their products, its about doing so whilst trying to increase the lock-in beyond what is achieved on performance grounds alone.

I may be wrong but my experience is that AMD has been a bit better on this is the past e.g their OpenCL libraries supported both Intel and AMD whereas Intel's were Intel only.

[mumblemumble]

I would assume that's not entirely a fair comparison, though. Intel's 3D acceleration hardware only ever appears in Intel-manufactured chipsets, which only ever contain Intel-manufactured CPUs.

AMD, on the other hand, also supplies Radeon GPUs for use with Intel CPUs. For example, that's the setup in the computer on which I'm typing this.

So I have a hard time seeing anything nefarious there. The one is obviously a business necessity, while the other would obviously be silly. Perhaps that changes with the new Xe GPUs?

[klelatti]

Sorry, should have been clearer - Intel's CPU OpenCL drivers only supported Intel and not AMD whereas the AMD's CPU OpenCL drivers supported both - so GPUs not relevant in this case.

I can see how if you've invested a lot in software you'd like to get a competitive advantage over your nearest rival so maybe a price we have to pay.

[gnufx]

Yes. The difference is that may be "theirs", but I think it's all free software. At least the linear algebra stuff is. They supply changes for BLIS (which seem not to get included for ages). Their changes may well be relevant to Haswell, for instance. I don't remember what the difference in implementation was for Zen and Haswell, but they were roughly the same code at one time.

[vel0city]

I wonder what features are missing from a Comet Lake generation Pentium, those can be had for ~$70 these days. Other than the feature of the box says "Core" on it instead of "Pentium".

EDIT: Ah, I found it, AVX2.

[mistrial9]

the capital model for cost recovery and earnings is one thing, but in the modern times, the amount of money that flows through Intel Inc. is not the same thing. Intel played dirty for long years to crush competitors, not "make money" like they need it.. "Greed is good" - remember that ? so, no.. apologists count your quarterly dividends but you have no platform for social advocacy here IMO