That's the sort of brilliance of Microsoft's approach...Teams doesn't have to be better, it just has to be good enough, and only good enough in the eyes of the procurement teams.
Leadership folks buy O365 because it's the cheapest way to get Office, Sharepoint, Exchange and so on. Enterprise Teams comes with it whether you want it or not, "no extra charge".
Then, when someone wants Slack, the discussion becomes "We already have Teams. I see Slack does x and y a little better, but is that worth X dollars?".
While I agree slack is better, Teams is improving and slack seems to be devolving into a worse platform with lots of anti-features. The simplistic and focused approach that made me love slack have gone away.
The whole integration aspect of teams with office365 is also a huge draw.
>The whole integration aspect of teams with office365 is also a huge draw.
Ah, yeah, should have mentioned that. Attachments in messages go into OneDrive, MS Forms is used to post a Poll/Quiz, Click on people's names, and you can see org hierarchy from AD, Meetings from Outlook/Exchange are tied to Teams, and so on.
Apart from a few minor quirks (pop-under call dialog is most annoying), for me Teams just works.
Just today I had over a dozen different calls, most with screen sharing, several with participants joining and quitting during the call. Several included me taking control of the other's screen. We even swapped screens over a dozen times between participants in one call.
I chatted a lot with my coworkers (corona home office turned into summer home office) including sending screenshots and similar.
I participated in discussions on the team channels, again with attachments.
We used the Excel integration to edit a spreadsheet attached to a meeting in collaboration during the meeting.
I took a couple of calls on my mobile phone while I was making lunch, as well as chatting, continuing the chats seamlessly on my desktop when I was done.
This all just worked. This is more or less a typical Teams day for me these days. However based on the comments on HN, clearly it seems I'm an outlier.
Yes the UI is lacking significantly in some areas, and there are some annoying bugs, but "total dumpster fire" isn't what I'd call it.
Teams works great for meetings and sucks for chat and persistent chat. I never use Slack for calls, I use it for IMs.
Teams has problems with its UI, organizing teams/channels, notifying, and basic always on functions. At least every other day, Teams secretly signs me out and I’m offline until I try to do something and sign in again, just to get IMs and missed calls. That has never happened with Slack.
Also Teams/SharePoint sucks so hard for web site and doc collaboration. Search doesn’t work well and it’s hard to get users organized around content. I’d rather have a shared Word doc than a Teams site.
Leadership folks buy O365 because it's the cheapest way to get Office, Sharepoint, Exchange and so on. Enterprise Teams comes with it whether you want it or not, "no extra charge".
Then, when someone wants Slack, the discussion becomes "We already have Teams. I see Slack does x and y a little better, but is that worth X dollars?".