[gizdan]

> Ever since Discourse set the standard for "good self-hosted open source forum software,"

I know this is besides your point, but I wouldn't credit Discourse with any standards but horrible UX. It's the worse of (new) Reddit combined with the worst of forum software. Horrendous.

[chrismorgan]

More recently they’ve made it work without JavaScript. I disable JavaScript by default for various reasons (but more about performance than privacy), and I’ve actually stopped enabling JavaScript for Discourse because I prefer its functionality that way.

[edoceo]

I'm surprised, in 2021, to find a robust app like Discourse that even works w/o JS. Cheers to that team.

[warglebargle]

Have you used reddit lately? you can’t even read a lot of it without downloading the app

[Macha]

New Reddit is clearly a reference to desktop reddit, though yes, mobile reddit is intentionally even worse to push you to the app (it can be trivially defeated by requesting desktop mode though, or there's always i.reddit.com ).

[gizdan]

Sadly, I have, hence why I mentioned new Reddit.