[mittermayr]

I always struggled with this concept, why not stop at 0 when the account is overstretched? Here in Europe, for most people I would say, it's quite rare that the account goes to 0, and if it does, the transactions simply don't go through (unless it's a credit card). Isn't that asking for borrowing money at no fee? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely despise predatory bank charges, but wonder if that's a bit much to ask a a consumer (i.e. no charge for borrowing money I don't have?). Or is this just about the penalty fee for going into overdraft, and not the actual fee for loaning of money?

[dimmke]

You used to be automatically opted into overdraft. Also, you could still get hit with an overdraft fee even if they rejected the charge. Banks also used to structure transactions to force overdrafts if they could. It was really bad.

[sofixa]

In France many banks propose an overdraft service which is limited ( as an example, for a student with no banking history to 200 euros), and is basically a mini free loan. There are rules like you can't stay on overdraft more than X days ( iirc the only one I've seen is 30 days), in which case you pay a fee.

[namdnay]

Being able to go below 0 is not tied to having a credit card. Nearly all debit cards issued in Europe can do this to. The only ones that don’t are things like Electron (systematic authorization), but they don’t play well with “fast” systems like motorway tollgates

[gambiting]

So what happens here in the UK with my visa debit card, is that if I somehow go below 0 using it(very difficult, but it has happened before) then my bank sends me a text saying "hey, you have gone into unarranged overdraft, please pay in some money before tomorrow 3pm or we'll charge you a fee".

But of course, that implies that the bank isn't greedy.