[rvz]

> It really shouldn't count as space travel unless they go into orbit around Earth.

Translation: 'Other private companies building their own rockets and going into space is 'not good enough' unless it is by SpaceX' and doesn't count.

To SpaceX fanatics and downvoters: I'm sure you are deep fanatics of SpaceX but surely you have the funds and deep pockets to join Musk and friends on a space mission together right now? If not, just continue to watch livestreams of others going into space then.

It should not be just down to ONE company. Commercial space flight is going to get allot cheaper with the existence of more competitors and that should be welcomed. Even SpaceX welcomes this and so should you.

[dang]

Please don't take HN threads into tedious flamewar.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[rvz]

I think its more like that the parent comment ultimately 'invited' (and started) this so-called flamewar you are accusing me of.

Dismissing the achievements of a certain project to only bring up somebody else's one and promote this clear bias is how flamewars start.

I'm only just putting out the fires and celebrating the achievements of every other company competing and launching their rockets into 'space'.

[dang]

Whatever the objection you have to the GP comment, you took a huge step (several huge steps) further into flamewar with your reply. Not cool; please don't.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: we've had to ask you repeatedly about this in the past. Would you please do a better job of sticking to the site guidelines? I don't want to ban you but some of these cases are pretty clear-cut.

[rvz]

> we've had to ask you repeatedly about this in the past. Would you please do a better job of sticking to the site guidelines?

Sure OK, I will do better at sticking to the site guidelines.

But what is also clear in the comments of the post and especially the top comment that most users were replying to, after reading the site guidelines they have completely violated this guideline in [0]:

> In comments:

> Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something.

You may disagree with this, but I see that as a known repeated symptom of creating 'flamewars' for other posts. I will be part of the 'good critical comment' club and do better at following the guidelines, rather than being the one posting shallow dismissals and flamebait at other people's work because they are a fan of someone else.

And as always, making my comment substantive. Not less.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[altcognito]

It’s kinda funny to see even the SpaceX fans miss a broader point. SpaceX could probably sell orbital trips on Falcon on the regular but they are out of reach of most nearly everyone except the US government whom needs manned flight for staffing the space station (thank goodness or we’d never get space progress)

The excitement and noise over suborbital flight is good, but in terms of achievement, Blue origin has yet to deliver on their major promises. I have confidence they will get there, but credit where credit is due, Spacex is getting it done.

[DuskStar]

SpaceX actually IS selling flights to tourists. First and second flights are scheduled for later this year IIRC.

[jdavis703]

The Russian v. USA space race’s important milestones included putting satellites, animals and people into orbit. It wasn’t just merely launching them to the edge of spacs.

[soperj]

The USSR didn't even bother with suborbital flights. There's a reason that there's only 3 flights to suborbital ranges that are considered manned spaceflight.