[tester34]

>Eastern Europe, like many other poor places in the world, is depleted of human capital because its simply such a crappy place to live.

What makes you think that it's crappy place to live (e.g Poland)? except politics

[jq-r]

Because unless you're rich, you're not living, you're surviving. And those are vastly different things.

[trasz]

Apart from economy, healthcare, pensions, schooling, and law enforcement? :-)

Food's good, though.

[tester34]

I do agree that higher edu institutions tend to be mehh unless you attend country's top, but law enforcement?

what do you mean? fighting corruption?

[trasz]

Poland's top universities - both of them - are at the very end of international rankings. As for law enforcement - it's just horribly ineffective. A trivial open and shut software piracy case can last a decade.

[tester34]

>Poland's top universities - both of them - are at the very end of international rankings.

It's hard to compare universities, unless you have attended both of them

Innovation output != Quality of teaching

Polish "computer-related" people are very often in top when it comes to e.g security (src: https://ctftime.org/) and top universities grads tends to have open doors to faang

I've seen people from both of those groups speaking very good about the schools they attended

[trasz]

Polish "computer-related people" can come out well even without graduating. This doesn't say much about universities.

Let me put this way: I know people who graduated in Computer Science, in Poland, who can't program. Not in some particular language; they can't write programs, they just don't quite get the idea.

[tester34]

>Let me put this way: I know people who graduated in Computer Science, in Poland, who can't program. Not in some particular language; they can't write programs, they just don't quite get the idea.

Me too, but doesn't it happen in every country?