[gmueckl]

Visionaries often focus on the end goals, not the path. This might be the easy way to excite people, I guess. Talking about a path there sounds too much like actually having to put in effort.

I think I also have become quite cynical. Being confronted with these ideas made me aware of that in a startling way.

[JKCalhoun]

Me too. All I can conjure up is Fuller-worshipping hippies creating dome homes and communes. And it feels like: tried that. Next!

Maybe the second time it will actually work.