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by bakuninsbart 1801 days ago
The Israeli government classified Pegasus, the software by NSO currently in the news, as a weapon, thus restricting its exports.

If you look at the list of customers, it quickly becomes clear that they are the same organizations that make the laws.

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"same organizations that make the laws"

More importantly, they are the ones that decide what laws are enforced.

What is sad is that in America, the law around surveillance and security is largely a nice marketing campaign. Sure, you have rights that protect you from the government.

But practically speaking the government won't enforce them, doesn't stop its employees from abusing them even for personal drama, undermines or stops dead any lawsuits by saying the discovery is impossible due to "national security", or will invent terms like "enemy combatant" and then apply them to its own citizens to bypass even the constitution. It will setup "oversight courts" that rubberstamp everything and have no real power or regulatory function/safeguard.

The result of this is that each presidential election is becoming truly dangerous to the opposition. If a McCarthyism movement takes over either party that's in power with the modern surveillance infrastructure, legal "precedents" established by Bush in the war on terror, the confirmation of those powers by the Obama administration holding onto them and continuing funding of infrastructure, undermining of judicial powers, rote acceptance by the people at large, and propaganda outlets available to push messaging, and huge amounts of institutional mores and standards thrown out in the Trump administration, the opposition has real motivation to feel an existential threat.

From an radio interview with NSO spokesman ( an ex spokesman for the IDF ), all sales require the Israeli MoD approval.
Is that more of a notification form or an actual collaborator process with a tribunal?
The Ministry of Defense has a strong inclination to approve any such requests. It's a hassle for the company in question, but the system is set up to encourage inflow of foreign capital to build up and maintain the defense industry.
Also great opportunities for backdoor access...
In the same interview the spokesman said that some companies choose to avoid it by operating from offices outside of Israel (Bulgaria and Cyprus were mentioned). This seems to imply that the process is burdensome.
Burdensome could be as simple as there being some transparency in a completely simple notification process. Doesn’t tell much.

Sometimes I avoid listing directors of a new corporation by forming an LLC and privately filing with the IRS to treat it as a C-Corp

Doesn't mean the regulations were tough, but still burdensome in some small way

> If you look at the list of customers, it quickly becomes clear that they are the same organizations that make the laws

Israel's unicameral, sovereign, supreme state body, the Knesset [1]?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knesset

no, its customers are foreign governments. its world governments against world people, not nation vs nation.
“State backed terrorist group” is a classification that exists, although it’s highly unlikely to be used here for obvious reasons.