[plank_time]

It’s not “hot season”. It was a historically abnormal heat wave. I lived in Vancouver. You don’t normally see temperatures like that.

It doesn’t have to reproduce right away, that’s just unrealistic. But the larger amounts of free space will mean a land grab by the survivors. That’s how it works in nature.

If the climate changes and the water heats up then the ecosystem will be replaced by those animals that would survive in warmer water. That’s science.

[JoeAltmaier]

Its also called "ecological collapse" when a place has catastrophic dieoff. It can take decades to recover, even with species that can survive in the new conditions.

(Meanwhile poor humans are trying to grow crops and raise animals. We may get very hungry, for decades)

[nautilius]

Yeah, the sun and Venus for example are overrun with life because there’s essentially no competition. That’s just science!

[eloff]

That's a dumb example, there's no life in those environments.

You could look to the intertidal regions near the equator for more reasonable comparison. They are much less rich in life compared to the waters around Vancouver.

[nautilius]

Ah really, there’s no life on the sun? Hey, come to think of it — that was my point exactly!

[eloff]

Your point is pointless. Life doesn't expand to take advantage of new resources in environments where there is no life. First you need life.

[nautilius]

Ah, that final newly added sentence turns your post into something that finally makes any sense at all and no longer contradicts GP’s point that I am arguing.

The point others and I are making is that life does not expand arbitrarily, or in a weaker form, the life that may expand will be a much less desirable environment for us humans than the present.

Even though you deny it, we can very simply create environments, right here on earth, where life as we know it will not be possible. Look into an operating steel smelter for example, just to remove any subtlety and ambiguity.

Sure, maybe ‘Science’ can replace all of our biosphere with extremophiles, but I for one do not desire to live in such a world. I like trees and birds and mammals and lizards and (you get the point).

[Dylan16807]

> It’s not “hot season”. It was a historically abnormal heat wave.

It's july 18. It both is hot season and was an abnormal heat wave.

So the questions are valid.