[johnchristopher]

> How do we, as a society, start accepting rational self-criticism again?

A good starting point would be to stop using the word "trigger" when someone reacts in a way you don't like to something you say.

Personally I interpret it as a way to diminish the other side position by suggesting they don't have control over their emotions regarding some subjects. Not a good start.

[drglitch]

Is there a more appropriate word to describe this? Honest question as a non-native English speaker.

Seems like this is a commonly used term/usage: https://www.google.com/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/us/amp...

[adamjb]

"Offended" would be my suggestion. "Triggered" is only really used in this sense as part of bad faith culture war discourse, mocking the idea of trigger warnings.

[bkirkby]

I've heard advocates of trigger warnings share their lived experience by talking about what "triggered" them, using that word specifically.

[dogorman]

The word is used in the context of PTSD. e.g. "hearing fireworks triggered flashbacks from the war"

More generally, a "trigger warning" is a "content advisory warning" by another name.

[wffurr]

There's a big difference between describing one's own experience and labeling others.

[Shorel]

I don't think they mock the idea of triggers.

They leverage and weaponize the concept, which is arguably worse.

[thatguy0900]

? but trigger was started and used by that side themselves.

[gnzg]

my understanding is that the word trigger is used in psychology to describe a wide range of traumatic responses. e.g whenever a war veteran suffering from ptsd hears firework it may trigger a strong traumatic response. //victims of abuse can get "triggered" by the presence or even mention of their abuser etc

it applies to a wide range of traumas and responses some of which might be more or less extreme, so it does include some small things: if you ever get a minor burn, the idea of touching a potentially hot surface might make you somewhat uncomfortable - you could call that a triggering experience even though it's not nearly as intense as the other examples.

Triggering experiences are generally considered to reinforce trauma and generate unncessary distress and should therefore be avoided

And so we use trigger warning before movies etc to warn users of potentially upsetting/triggering content such as war, torture, sexual violence and various forms of abuse, it's really not that big of a deal

[khawkins]

This was the original idea, that some people with genuine traumatic experiences and were currently suffering from mental illness could choose to opt-out before proceeding on to read/watch something. But the concept got wildly out of hand as activists, especially younger adults, began obsessively applying it to nearly any piece of written word and anything they could frame as traumatic.

For example, if you're about to present a movie to a captive audience that involves depictions of rape, it would be good that someone who has experienced rape, especially recently, knows that it will ahead of time and has the ability to opt-out because it might trigger a traumatic episode. The circumstances where you have a captive audience and it's not clear from the context what will be depicted are actually quite rare, so its usage should be rare.

But young people, trying to signal their virtuous compassion and understanding to like-minded individuals, would put "trigger warnings" at the top of blog posts about things like "racism" or "homophobia", and all that would be discussed would be that they overheard a slur at the store.

At some point, the dominant use of trigger warnings was by people with thin skins, ready to get offended on behalf of "victims" who had suffered, at worst, nothing more than people being rude or mean to them. Pretending like these kinds of negative encounters are anything close to the mind-breaking trauma of getting raped or watching your fellow soldiers explode in front of you is disgusting, and eventually everyone caught on that the activists were trying to equivocate real trauma with "hurt feelings". Worse, they were effectively teaching young people to internalize and exaggerate negative experiences so that they could identify as someone with PTSD. That doing this made them unique and gave them extra attention from others who wanted to actively show compassion to victimized people. For lonely young people who want a cause, it was extremely attractive because it gave them identity, purpose, and community. But in reality, it was largely a perverted roleplay which coddled everyone involved and made them emotionally fragile.

The original concept of trigger warnings is solid, but should be practiced only where necessary and never attached to the phrase "trigger warning", as that nomenclature has been ceded to the activists.

[afarrell]

I’d advise reading the book “112 Gripes about the French” and then applying that same empathy to the people you dislike in our modern era.

[thatguy0900]

Where did you get I disliked anybody? Parent used "sides" before I did, and it's seems absurd to say the right started trigger to mock the left

[afarrell]

> Parent used “sides” before I did

My philosophy is that I don’t care who started it. I care how I respond to try to improve things.

(Though I myself have a lot to learn as well.)