[thomaskcr]

It's one thing to sell "Full Self Driving" with the idea that you are basically preordering and get access for now to something that is level 2 but more advanced than any other level 2 system. I don't know how you sell a subscription to something called "Full Self Driving" that doesn't do that at all.

It kind of kills the fiction that Tesla wasn't selling vaporware and just let people preorder FSD for less than it will cost so that's why its called "Full Self Driving". Now they are literally selling something that doesn't exist. The package does more than auto-pilot, but Tesla is not even close to full self driving regardless of the reality warp field they seem to exist in that puts them plainly behind the majority of the players in the field while their fans think they are the only game in town. They lead only in brazenness, they are the only company willing to deploy something half done to the public with the fine print that you need to monitor/be responsible for your "full self driving" car.

When you search Tesla on HN the second highest article is from FIVE YEARS AGO announcing "All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware" (which wasn't even true since that was back at HW2). I have no idea how anyone still thinks this company or Elon have any credibility, especially on FSD.