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by web007 1800 days ago
> I don't have customers > I can't explain that it will be more than this single product > It's impossible to make this startup without a weird path

What the hell is wrong with you?

You have no customers and an idea you can't explain. What makes you think you can build this unexplainable cusomerless thing into a business, let alone LITERALLY mortgage your future for it?

As others have said: No. Under no circumstances should you sell your house to fund... whatever this is. Bootstrap it nights and weekends if you feel passionate, maybe go find a co-founder if you can explain it coherently.
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Throwey12 1800 days ago
I'm mostly failing to pitch investors, potential customers are excited.
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f6v 1800 days ago
There’s a huge difference between “potential customers are excited” and “customers are paying for the product“.

And the other thing: it’s seems like you put part of the blame on not being born in the USA and not graduating from the Ivy League. That’s not a pre-requisite for success though. If you don’t have connections, maybe it’s you and not the place where you live or your social class.

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ghufran_syed 1800 days ago
totally agree - I fell into this trap before of mistaking “customers think it’s a good idea” for “customers will pay”

This video from yc explains how most of our conversations with (potential) users are at best useless and at worse misleading, and how to do it better. Based on the book, “The mom test”

https://www.ycombinator.com/library/6g-how-to-talk-to-users

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Throwey12 1800 days ago
Totally fair, that's why I want to launch asap and need devs for it. I'm well aware of this trap. I also already sold similar products to companies, and now pivoting to b2c.

Well, it helps. A lot. It's very hard to build relationships from another country, I know everyone will say it's easy because of covid, but it's not for people from third world countries without prior startup/FAANG experience. I might move tho. And yes, problem is highly in myself, but I'm always trying hard to help people and trying to be more open and communicative.

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f6v 1800 days ago
> Totally fair, that's why I want to launch asap and need devs for it.

Maybe you’re right, and maybe you have to learn this in your own way. But it’s often possible to figure out if they’re going to pay for the product without building a full product.

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