[gpvos]

That is a non-sequitur; GP states drugs are not liberalized and you ask after liberal drugs laws. Immigration laws are a European matter, we are a Schengen country and can do little about internal European travel; at the European frontier, even illegal pushbacks are done in a vain attempt to keep people out.

[pelasaco]

The narco-state situation didn't start in 2015. It comes from decades, where there was no "European matter" but each Country decided by its own.

[pelasaco]

The report is from 2000 https://www.irishtimes.com/news/new-wave-of-criminals-operat..., unfortunately, I couldn't find the original report from 1999/2000 from Europol

[gpvos]

I was just reacting what you wrote in relation to its parent. Also, please don't edit your comments to say something entirely different. And also, I don't know about you, but both Lutger and me live in the country under discussion.

[pelasaco]

you both live there, I grew up there. I'm German with a migration background and spent most of my youth age in Den Haag, in an Aruban clique, my second language is Portuguese and we used to mix Papiamento, Portuguese, German, English, Dutch. We knew every group and who did what there. First time that I saw a real gun was there. I'm talking from end 90s.

[gpvos]

I must admit I have lived a more sheltered life than you.

[pelasaco]

what, I just edited, after you edited. So, its ok, no?

[gpvos]

You initially called me something, then added the link to the Irish newspaper, then removed the entire text of the original comment.

I did add and clarify, but not remove.

[pelasaco]

yup, because your answer was a simply: "its a fallacy" without giving any argument, so I did the same. You updated it with a better reasoning and so did I.