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by shadowlight 1801 days ago
These guys earn it. If I pay for a concert of I pay for a game I know I'm contributing to that celebrities salary because that person is responsible for a huge portion of the entertainment. I do so willingly.

When I pay for a product I want the majority of my payment to go to the workers responsible for realizing the product not the CEO telling the workers what to do. We all know a company is destroyed if you remove all the workers, but not if you remove a CEO. The same cannot be said of celebrities.

Additionally I'm a fucking worker as are most people here. So of course it's a problem for me if the CEO is taking something that isnt considered a fair share by workers. I'm also 100 percent fucking aware of what my CEO actually does and how much he actually contributes.

What amazes me is the leaps of logic that CEOs formulate in order to justify their crimes and lie to themselves.

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A concert also falls apart without stage crew, yet we still accept that the star in the light gets 20000 times their hourly pay. And while “Spice girls” would certainly be different if they’d chosen a different cast of girls for the positions, I highly doubt it would have been fundamentally different[0] Yet Amazon would not be here today without Bezos, Facebook would not be here without Zuckerberg and Apple wouldn’t be here without Jobs. I think it’s quite narrow minded and unfair to discard their contributions off-hand simply because you feel like 100% of the money you pay for an iPhone should go to the worker that pushed the button on the assembly line that put it together, or the person sorting the package into the right bin before the robots at Amazon sort those into the shipping box that eventually ends up at your door, so you can use it to like the latest SoMe posts from your favorite boy/girl-band.

[0]I’m not trying to put down their musical or performance talent, just commenting on the fact that even the greatest entertainment products are still just entertainment products and certainly don’t justify a huge x compared to CEO’s just because one song is more popular than another.

> I think it’s quite narrow minded and unfair to discard their contributions off-hand simply because you feel like 100% of the money you pay for an iPhone should go to the worker that pushed the button on the assembly line that put it together

I think it's quite narrow minded and downright evil to paint a picture as if this is what I'm doing.

I NEVER said the CEO doesn't matter. But certainly he doesn't matter as much as you and their salaries imply. Jobs died, guess what happened to Apple? Nothing. Steve jobs matters, but along with every other CEO in the world, if he suddenly dies, life goes on and not much happens to the company.

Additionally what the hell is this garbage about assembly workers pushing buttons? That's just one step in a highly complex process. There's designers, engineers, programmers and assembly workers. All of these people combined contribute far more than Steve Jobs saying, "build me a touch screen phone." Certainly you need someone to give the order but in no way is this person a critical part of the equation. You saying this is a deliberate distortion of what I am saying. The best word to describe it is: lies.

>[0]I’m not trying to put down their musical or performance talent, just commenting on the fact that even the greatest entertainment products are still just entertainment products and certainly don’t justify a huge x compared to CEO’s just because one song is more popular than another.

Yeah great job covering your ass while distorting and twisting my point. No dude. CEO's as they stand today deserve far less than celebrities. The entire operation falls apart without a celebrity. Not so for the CEO.

CEOs are an important part the equation for a product. But they are also the least important when compared to the rest of pipeline. The CEO is replaceable, the pipeline is not.