[lottin]

Waste is not subjective. If the minimum cost to achieve a goal is X, and it costs you Y (where Y > X) to achieve it, you're wasting Y - X.

[keymone]

sure, but it is subjective what is the goal and what is it's value.

[lottin]

What the goal is is not subjective either, and its value is irrelevant for the purposes of this calculation.

[keymone]

how is goal not subjective? do you know what my goal is without me telling you? demonstrate please.

[lottin]

Somebody's goal is not a matter of taste or personal opinion, but a fact. If my goal is X, then this what my goal is, and that is independent of opinions and perceptions.

[keymone]

> Somebody's goal is not a matter of taste or personal opinion

citation needed

> If my goal is X, then this what my goal is

does this not strike you as circular? :)

[lottin]

It seems that you're just trying to waste my time without providing a counterargument, so I'll leave it here.

[keymone]

lol, you're the one claiming a very non intuitive thing - that one's goals don't depend on tastes and preferences, if you can't back up that claim by anything then just say so. no need to weasel out with "don't waste my time".

one of my goals is to visit nepal. tell me how is that objective?