[nickik]

Its amazing how people endlessly talk about Germany but ignore all the other cases where Union are far less positive. How about we talk about how Venezuela Union bosses. How about the US car workers union being an endless pit of corruption.

Switzerland is next to Germany, and has almost no union and there is not so much difference in overall standard of living and how workers are treated.

The idea that Unions are this universal good and talking negative about them is simply being anti-worker pro-capitalist exploitation is a tiered talking point.

[dgb23]

In Switzerland many professions have a GAV (initiated by unions) with strong worker protection.

[jorvi]

AFAIK, Denmark doesn't even have a minimum wage, it's just that pretty much every sector and niche of the economy has unions so it is de facto enforced via union <-> sector negotiations. Unions are great, and people who are against them fall in one of three categories:

- business owner

- absolute free market fetishists

- one bad experience cherry pickers