[oytis]

> Visibility is not a meaningful "reward" for established European newspapers

Why? There are two ways how I would land on a newspaper's page. One is if I read them regularly, then I just go to their website directly to check what's new. That's what their loyal audience does, and Google doesn't affect that.

Another one is that I'm googling for news about a specific event or specific person - then I go to whatever pages Google shows me. That's how newspaper expand their loyal audience.

[danielrpa]

It appears that they don't want it and prefer other terms - pay me and you can use my headlines. We cannot force newspapers to accept Google's headlines-for-clicks system against their will.

[hutzlibu]

No, they want the audience google brings. They just want a share of googles profits, riding the anti google sentiment, google got for other things. Classic politics.

[pc86]

Can we force them to accept the reality of how the internet has operated for the last 4+ decades, or are they exempt from that as well?

[oytis]

I could be convinced that demanding to be removed from Google index is legitimate. But it's also not what newspaper want: they want to be indexed and be paid for it, no way for Google not to take the deal. That's state-supported extortion to me.

[shkkmo]

French newspapers clearly do want it as Google is being forced to display links to French newspapers by the French government.

[jstanley]

Yes, we can, that's what fair use is all about.