[LifeIsThermal]

I´m less worried by vaccine safety than the vaccine strategy. You don´t normally vaccinate in an ongoing pandemic, usually you vaccinate when a virus is not in circulation. By vaccinating in this way, in an already infected population, you add selection pressure that creates an advantage for more contagious vaccine-resistant strains. This is the real danger in my opinion, but of course side effects of this new vaccine technology can emerge. We´ve already seen Pfizers vaccine downgraded to 64% efficacy in Israel due to the Delta-variant, so vaccine resistant mutations are a real thing.

There´s one scientist that predicted this development perfectly, Geert Vanden Bosschen. He´s the only one so far that has made correct predictions in this pandemic. He said that mass-vaccinating during ongoing pandemic will result in rising numbers of cases among fully vaccinated people a couple of months after vaccination, caused by selective pressure leading to vaccine resistant mutations dominating. He also warns strongly against vaccinating children. But he praises the new vaccine technology, so he´s not antivaxx.

[anshorei]

> But he praises the new vaccine technology, so he´s not antivaxx.

It's sad how this has to be stated every time one brings up criticism of the current vaccine strategy. For many people there's only two possible stances: "I've already taken the vaccine" and "I'm an anti-vaxxer". I also remember that back when Trump was boasting "We'll have the vaccine soon! It'll be the greatest vaccine. And then we can all go back to normal!" there was a healthy skepticism on the left of promoting nation-wide use of a rushed vaccine, but as soon as Biden took over this disappeared.

[raxxorrax]

Yes, I think Mareks disease is theorized to be a prime example for this. It is deadly by now for any unvaccinated chickens and it probably was caused by a leaky vaccine and the Covid vaccines are too.

[dragonwriter]

> There´s one scientist that predicted this development perfectly, Geert Vanden Bosschen. He´s the only one so far that has made correct predictions in this pandemic. He said that mass-vaccinating during ongoing pandemic will result in rising numbers of cases among fully vaccinated people a couple of months after vaccination,

No, its not one scientist who got that right; this was widely flagged that as a likely outcome if the deployment was not so rapid and universal as to essentially curtail significant community spread before that occurred, which is why there was so much imperative from experts for rapid and universal deployment and so much criticism of the slow speed and uneveness of the actual deployment.

> He also warns strongly against vaccinating children.

Given the reason for the other risk (which isn’t “vaccination” but “incomplete vaccination which leaves an large unvaccinated population in contact with the vaccinated population”) that seems.

> But he praises the new vaccine technology, so he´s not antivaxx.

Supporting vaccination in the abstract but arguing that we shouldn’t actually vaccinate people with the actual real vaccines that exist in the actual real circumstances that exist is…not an uncommon antivax position, so, while the conclusion of this argument might still be true, the premise offered is not sufficient to justify the conclusion.

[raxxorrax]

> not an uncommon antivax position

Then this term has no meaning at all

[dtech]

What's the alternative? Let the pandemic rage on for a few more years, wait till everyone has been affected or dead, and then vaccinate?

Oh wait, that will have the exact same problem, because as more and more people get natural immunity the same selective pressure arises causing new variants. See cold or flu viruses.

Congratulations, you've just caused much more suffering, death and economic damage and achieved nothing by waiting with vaccinations. Good job!

[Pyramus]

> He´s the only one so far that has made correct predictions in this pandemic.

How likely do you think is it, that a vast field of virologists, immunologists, molecular biologists, medical doctors and scientists in general are all wrong but this one person is right?

[forcry]

He is not alone in making that connection regarding vaccinating in the middle of a pandemic

As you can see here. I am not sure what the exact time is, but they also suggest this possibility. It appears to me that this is common knowledge..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-RuvUkcyJI

[Pyramus]

That is exactly my point - it is common knowledge that there are risks.

By saying "everybody is wrong but I found this one guy who is right" parent is well down the road towards conspiracy theory.