[adolfojp]

How condescending do you have to be to attribute any act of dissent from Cubans towards their own government as an act of interference from the USA?

Do Cubans have no agency of their own? No free will? No intelligence to determine for themselves whether their own political system suits them or not?

Do you think that Cubans who don't agree with your political beliefs are too stupid to know better or corrupt and bought?

[dragonwriter]

> How condescending do you have to be to attribute any act of dissent from Cubans towards their own government as an act of interference from the USA?

GP didn't attribute any dissent to the CIA, they insinuated that the CIA would be expected to actively exploit any dissent as a propaganda opportunity.

[nyczomg]

I'm not sure, but the person you're replying to might be implying that the CIA is busy online "raising awareness" and by that they sarcastically mean that the CIA is conducting an online misinformation campaign to discredit the people on the ground protesting.

I might be wrong though.

[snypher]

If they had true agency the US would drop the sanctions and let them do as they please. Unfortunately the US loves to have a finger in every pie, and blaming the local population isn't the answer.

[adolfojp]

Embargo bad doesn't make Cuban government good and the Cuban people can rally against both.

The embargo is not responsible for Cuba's repression of the press, their repression of political dissent, their single party political system, the unchanging leaders from 1959 to 2018, or of Cuba's government own mismanagement of things.

No one is talking about blaming the Cubans for their woes. We're talking about the right and capacity of the Cuban people to rally against their own government if they wish.

[sudosysgen]

While I share your concerns for democracy in Cuba there is likely still majority or close to majority support for the government and far from majority support for the embargo, so I think that by far the best way to support the agency of the Cuban people is to allow greater economic freedom, not to encourage potentially unpopular and certainly massively destructive military action.

[jvcfvvv]

> in Cuba there is likely still majority or close to majority support for the government

This is quite an assumption, and if it's true, it's only because those who disagreed with the regime have already been killed or leapt into the ocean to perish or prosper in Miami

[sudosysgen]

While there was large emigration historically out of Cuba of people that disagree with the governments, there were very far from enough people killed during the revolution or later to significantly improve those numbers.

It's not an assumption, there are polls with approval ratings for various political figures from even western institutions that show that approval ratings 40-60 are the norm. It's possible that the approval has decreased due to the crisis, but that's not unique to Cuba and if it is maintained it's plausible for the president to change.

[adolfojp]

Where did I voice support for military action?

I feel like I'm talking to automated talking points bots.

[sudosysgen]

What's the alternative? I don't understand the end goal there. What can be done except military action that will help, given that we accept that economic pressure doesn't help on the balance?

Please don't accuse me of being a bot just because my unstated priors are different from your unstated priors. It's really poor for the conversation and for every interlocutor.