[hajile]

If someone learned lisp (or ML) in the 80s, very little from the “cutting edge” of languages would seem new at all. Likewise, most current framework trends have been around for decades.

I think the Junior mistake is searching for a programming panacea. While lots of bad designs exist, perfect designs do not.

[whoknowswhat11]

Exactly this - people spend more time talking about frameworks than solving problems sometimes - the framework will not solve it and people have built huge / successful apps w rudimentary stack

[convolvatron]

learned lisp and ML in the 80s. agree completely.