[liberalbias998]

I agree; what I am trying to say; is there is no excuse for God. People have spent centuries making excuses most of them much smarter people than me. In a 21st century context it seems apparent that Gods possible excuses for creating a universe that mandates suffering are running out.

[tablespoon]

> I agree; what I am trying to say; is there is no excuse for God. People have spent centuries making excuses most of them much smarter people than me. In a 21st century context it seems apparent that Gods possible excuses for creating a universe that mandates suffering are running out.

I mean, an obvious "excuse" is that he's not optimizing for the one single quality you chose (absolutely minimized suffering).

[pmoriarty]

"he's not optimizing for the one single quality you chose (absolutely minimized suffering)"

God doesn't have to choose any quality over any other.

An omnipotent god could make a universe perfect in every way... but the universe is not perfect in every way. Why not?

[tablespoon]

> An omnipotent god could make a universe perfect in every way... but the universe is not perfect in every way. Why not?

The obvious issue with a statement like that is that a god would have a very different perspective than yours, and it assumes that you could actually define perfect or know it when you see it.